How to resolve a leak
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So I am looking for help. I have a recurring leak in my living room ceiling. The leak only appears during times when snow is thawing, it does not appear during times of heavy rain, and I mean really heavy rain. I had the roof replaced a couple of months ago so I am slowly reducing the areas where I believe the water can be coming from, but I'm looking for advice.
Does anyone have any trick to discover where the water is coming from? Do they make difference colour die tablets you can place on the roof, so that you can tell by the dye colour that comes through the ceiling where the water started from? Would a heat sensitive camera help? Could I use it to see the water above the ceiling boards and to follow the path? Can you rent heat sensitive cameras? Any idea where from?
Looking for ideas from some bright people...
So I am looking for help. I have a recurring leak in my living room ceiling. The leak only appears during times when snow is thawing, it does not appear during times of heavy rain, and I mean really heavy rain. I had the roof replaced a couple of months ago so I am slowly reducing the areas where I believe the water can be coming from, but I'm looking for advice.
Does anyone have any trick to discover where the water is coming from? Do they make difference colour die tablets you can place on the roof, so that you can tell by the dye colour that comes through the ceiling where the water started from? Would a heat sensitive camera help? Could I use it to see the water above the ceiling boards and to follow the path? Can you rent heat sensitive cameras? Any idea where from?
Looking for ideas from some bright people...
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Posted by Adam Gartenberg At 04:09:16 PM On 02/05/2008 | - Website - |
Posted by Carl Tyler At 04:11:59 PM On 02/05/2008 | - Website - |
Posted by Larry Cannon At 04:29:30 PM On 02/05/2008 | - Website - |
Posted by null At 10:31:16 PM On 02/05/2008 | - Website - |
Posted by Jacques At 10:37:37 PM On 02/05/2008 | - Website - |
It's the thawing snow that is throwing me off. But the above is what I did when I had a leak that only showed when it rained really hard. The sleeve around the vent had cracked.
Posted by Gregg Eldred At 12:00:53 AM On 02/06/2008 | - Website - |
Beyond that, you need to think like water. It is almost impossible for it to drip straight down from the small leak. It's going to follow the underside of the OSB roofing until it reaches a rafter, and will follow the seam there or will run down the rafter and and run along the bottom of that, tending downhill. Remember, water is "sticky". Water also loves to run along wiring and drip out through sockets.
What's above the ceiling? Is there crawlspace or is it just drywall then insulation, then roof?
Posted by Andrew Pollack At 12:23:38 AM On 02/06/2008 | - Website - |
I have also had the snow blowing into the attic space through the vents on the roof and the vents on the side of the house.
Posted by Clay Goforth At 01:18:21 AM On 02/06/2008 | - Website - |
Ice dams form when the air is freezing so the roof surface temperature above the overhanging eaves is freezing, but the roof surface above the attic space is above freezing due to heat from the house rising up. The ice build-up over the eaves traps melt-water that is trying to run down from above. The water backs up, gets under shingles and finds its way through a nail hole that isn't sealed.
Finding the nail hole where water is getting through and patching it does not fix the real problem. When the ice dams recur, the water will find another pathway.
There are two paths to solution: (1) prevent heat from getting into the attic, thus preventing melting until the outside air is above freezing; (2) improve air circulation inside the attic, evening out the temperature. The former is done by improving insulation on the attic floor. The latter can be done by installing an attic fan, a ridge vent, or soffet vents -- or sometimes just by unblocking existing vents.
And note: any competent NH roofing contractor should be very well aware of these issues. In addition to the above steps, roofing contractors will often be aware of other solutions, which they will try to sell to you: anti-leak strips that go under the first several courses of shingles, or refelective strips or heating elements raise the temperature above the eaves to melt the dams.
In severe cases, the roof work should be done ASAP. My neighbors had their roof re-done along with significant interior repairs in December. (The previous home-owner had done the last replacement himself.) In minor cases, the roof work can wait, and you can buy a "roof rake" at Home Depot (if you can find one in stock) and use it to remove the build-up of snow on the eaves before it gets a chance to freeze solid.
Posted by Richard Schwartz At 01:31:26 AM On 02/06/2008 | - Website - |
A little about the roof design, it's basically, plasterboard, insulation, air packet, roof (or something like that, no attic space or crawl space etc.
Ice dam had been my initial idea, which lead me to replacing the roof, with one big industrial strength rubber roof, basically, no nails. I also added an extra inch of insulation when they put down the new roof.
My theory is that's it's actually my chimney stack, the water sits on top there, and I think it's finding a way in and then down the roof to the first horizontal beam and then going, hhm no way except down.
I'm going to try putting tarpaulin over the chimney stack before the next snow and see what happens (don't worry Andrew, I won't light my fire whilse the tarpaulin is there)
Posted by Carl Tyler At 08:23:57 AM On 02/06/2008 | - Website - |
Posted by Richard Schwartz At 11:57:05 AM On 02/06/2008 | - Website - |
I suspect this act of negligence has totalled voided the guarantee on these new shingles. My question, how can this glaring act of negligence be remedied?
Posted by dawson creek At 06:52:29 AM On 08/15/2010 | - Website - |
I suspect this act of negligence has voided the guarantee on these new shingles. My question, how can this glaring act of negligence be remedied?
Posted by dawson creek At 06:53:47 AM On 08/15/2010 | - Website - |