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1 - Don't forget DB2 and also the Gateway. If you want SIP/SSL you then need the WAS Proxy component. At least in 8.5 the port conflict issues are resolved.

Posted by David Price At 12:48:20 PM On 12/22/2009 | - Website - |

2 - @1 You are totally right I forgot to put DB2 in there.. If you install the system console etc. the WAS are installed by the Sametime installers.

Posted by Carl Tyler At 12:50:34 PM On 12/22/2009 | - Website - |

3 - Can you install everyone on one box, with the exception of Domino and the community server?

Posted by Patrick H At 01:42:58 PM On 12/22/2009 | - Website - |

4 - Looks loke a big push for Sametime cloud solutions. I don' like it but if it sells then this is the way to go.

Posted by Henning Heinz At 01:43:09 PM On 12/22/2009 | - Website - |

5 - Would be great to know what a pilot/proof of concept scenario might be. For the Minimum on 2 machines, what can go on what?

Posted by Nelson Morris At 08:28:05 PM On 12/22/2009 | - Website - |

6 - I'm with Henning on this one! Businesses are wanting to take cost and complexity out of the data center, not add to it.

The problem with them moving to a hosted solution for chat and meetings is that when they go shopping for solutions, they might not end up with Sametime.

Posted by Bill Dorge At 09:27:53 PM On 12/22/2009 | - Website - |

7 - WAS?

Posted by Tripp At 11:13:11 PM On 12/22/2009 | - Website - |

8 - WAS = Web Application Server

Posted by Jan Van Puyvelde At 02:05:50 AM On 12/23/2009 | - Website - |

9 - Hi Carl,

Please hack the Sametime page on IBM site and upload this post,

Posted by Albert Buendia At 03:04:31 AM On 12/23/2009 | - Website - |

10 - Actually, WAS stands for WebSphere Application Server (not Web Application Server).

Hmmm. It's all starting to look pretty formidable, is it not, particularly for very small Notes/Domino shops (with, say, 25 or 30 seats, no dedicated It staff, limited budget).

In such cases I wonder if the first table entry ("just IM") together with Pentos Sametime 2 Skype would work well enough (refer to { Link } ) since I get the impressions that smaller shops are not ideologically opposed to using products like Skype [with its proprietary security model that larger enterprises strive to avoid]. Any opinions on this?

Posted by Tony Austin At 01:18:54 PM On 12/28/2009 | - Website - |

11 - @10 That is actually my biggest concern Tony.

As a small business myself, I currently have my Sametime server on a hosted server somewhere else so I get good bandwidth etc. Guess what at a minimum, Sametime has doubled my hosting costs as I need a minimum of 1 new hosted server.

I think this is where more small businesses will consider hosted meeting services, and right now, gotomeeting, webex etc. to me have stronger offerings than LotusLive.

Posted by Carl Tyler At 07:26:36 PM On 12/28/2009 | - Website - |

12 - @10: thanks

Posted by Jan Van Puyvelde At 07:32:50 PM On 12/31/2009 | - Website - |

13 - Confused. 2 machines or 2 domino servers running on 1 iseries?

Posted by steve At 10:05:43 AM On 01/06/2010 | - Website - |

14 - As far as I know, if you want to use Sametime like you did up till now, you can install option 1 or option 2 and it will work just like it did in the past.
The question is, how long will IBM support that solution.

Posted by Vladimir Kocjancic At 02:18:24 AM On 01/07/2010 | - Website - |

15 - Carl,

Do you have instruction on how to install ST 8.5?

Posted by Carlos Hernandez At 10:31:05 AM On 03/01/2010 | - Website - |

16 - @15 It's in the Sametime Infocenter

{ Link }

I find it easier to install using the PDFs, which can be found here:
{ Link }

Be sure to put some time aside.

Posted by Carl Tyler At 10:33:01 AM On 03/01/2010 | - Website - |

17 - So there is no web client/iphone version of Sametime 8.5 without using all the Websphere/DB2 components. Too bad.

Posted by Michael Koehn At 05:41:16 PM On 03/30/2010 | - Website - |

18 - You have it wrong, on the proxy server side you will need another box but you only need to install the proxy server on it so that being the case you might be luck and get it to run on the ST box, not tried it but good news is you don't need an ldap or the SSC or a DB, it is truely stand alone.

Posted by Jon At 11:00:12 AM On 04/01/2010 | - Website - |

19 - @18, I assume that is in response to @17.

The Proxy server is still a Websphere application, so yep doesn't need DB2, but does still need it's underlying Websphere server.

Posted by Carl Tyler At 11:02:37 AM On 04/01/2010 | - Website - |

20 - Thanks for the info !

So if we are currently using ST 8.0.2 with 8.0.2 FP2 users using just the embedded IM facility in their Notes 8 client, all we need to do is upgrade our users to 8.5.1 FP1 and then upgrade our ST 8.0.2 to ST 8.5 ?

No further servers etc are required ?

Cheers

Posted by Matt At 09:34:03 AM On 05/20/2010 | - Website - |

21 - @20 Assuming you aren't using features like Audio/Video chat then yes.

Posted by Carl Tyler At 09:36:56 AM On 05/20/2010 | - Website - |

22 - Thanks for the info !
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<br />So if we are currently using ST 8.0.2 with 8.0.2 FP2 users using just the embedded IM facility in their Notes 8 client, all we need to do is upgrade our users to 8.5.1 FP1 and then upgrade our ST 8.0.2 to ST 8.5 ?
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<br />No further servers etc are required ?
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<br />Cheers

Posted by Matt At 09:37:12 AM On 05/20/2010 | - Website - |

23 - Can you please elaborate on how you would set this up using 2 physical servers and implementing all the features available. Is it the Community Server running on the Domino Server for one physical server and then everything else on the other?

Posted by Robert Knieriem At 02:22:55 PM On 06/04/2010 | - Website - |

24 - Understand completely how each technology builds on the previous 'install set'.

However, what if a customer only wants chat and presence awareness, but they would like to have Audio/Video chat too.

They don't specifically want to run meetings per se, only interactive chat with A/V.

Thanks

Mike

Posted by Mike Perrett At 08:56:12 AM On 09/14/2010 | - Website - |

25 - en un servidor secundario quiero poner el sametime 8.5 standard demo.. alguien ya lo ha hecho que me orientara.

de antemano gracias: Rolleyes:

Posted by oswald At 05:37:02 PM On 10/10/2011 | - Website - |